| Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
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From: Yoshihiro Ohba (yohba |
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| Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 09:12:47 -0700 (PDT) | |
On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:47:44PM -0700, Lakshminath Dondeti wrote: > Hi Bernard, > > Thank you for clearly explaining the problem. I appreciate it. I have > even read Acct-Multi-Session-Id thing now and I wonder perhaps it makes > sense to tie the "domain" definition to that attribute. I am not sure how this can solve the problem. How this provides an evidence that the peer has requested DSRK? Yoshihiro Ohba > > Let me try to respond to your notes below: > > On 3/12/2008 2:43 PM, Bernard_Aboba [at] hotmail.com wrote: > > During the HOKEY WG meeting today we got into a discussion of > > fraud protection and potential issues relating to that within ERX. > > > > Since I mentioned the fraud issue in my O&M review, and > > since this issue has been brought up by other reviewers > > as well as in Sam's DISCUSS, I thought I'd send a more > > detailed description of my perception of the problem to the list, > > in order to fully describe what I think the issue is, and how > > it has been introduced. > > > > At its core, I believe that the problem has been created > > by the introduction of a short cut that in practice will > > provide little in the way of handoff latency reduction, > > namely the piggybacking of DSRK provisioning on the initial > > EAP authentication (e.g. EAP boostrapping). > > Again, thanks for pointing out the specific issue here. It is very helpful. > > > > > The shortcut is immaterial to performance because the additional > > latency involved in providing proper peer authorization > > for DSRK provisioning would be amortized across the > > user's connection time within the new domain and thus > > would not constitute a burden. > > The shortcut helps. After full EAP authentication, the next AP the peer > attaches to (we don't know how fast the handover happens) would have to > run ERP bootstrapping exchange instead of ERP with the local ER server. > We should avoid that when possible. Implicit bootstrapping is a > SHOULD. Implicit bootstrapping is also possible only if the peer can > learn the domain name from the authenticator. Thus, there is a way for > the peer and the server to establish that they are communicating with > entities that advertise the same domain name. Now as long as we require > all acct records from the same domain to use the Acct-Multi-Session-Id, > we would have mitigated the fraud. > > thanks, > Lakshminath > > > > > This optimization is problematic from > > a security perspective because it not only enables new > > avenues for fraud when ERX is used, but it also negatively > > affects the security of EAP as it is currently deployed, by > > providing keying material to an entity that the EAP peer > > has not authorized, and may not even be familiar with, > > even when the peer does not support ERX. > > > > How has the use of EAP boostrapping within the ERX design > > introduced new avenues for fraud? > > > > There are several properties of AAA protocols that are very > > useful for automated anti-fraud protection: > > > > 1. Correlation of Accounting Records to a corresponding > > authentication record; > > > > 2. Linkage of authentication records to a user whose > > authentication can be verified (and is immune to replay). > > > > Property 1 is provided by the Class Attribute, which can > > be provided within an Access-Accept and subsequently echoed > > to an Accounting-Start, as well as via the Acct-Multi-Session > > Attribute, which can be used to correlate Accounting-Start > > packets issued within a single session of a user handing > > off between access points. > > > > Property 2 is provided by the requirement that a RADIUS > > Access-Request provide either a State Attribute, > > user authentication attributes or other evidence > > that demonstrates that the Access-Request > > represents an interaction with a user that at one > > point was demonstrated to be live (e.g. not a replay). > > > > Properties 1 and 2 together limit the opportunities > > for fraud. While it is possible for an operator to > > "imbelish" accounting records for valid sessions, > > potentially expanding the charges, it is typically not > > possible to invent sessions to which fictious > > charges can then be attached. > > > > The difference may seem subtle, but in practice, it > > is important. As an analogy, it is the > > difference between being overcharged for a purchase > > that you did make, and having an unknown item show up on > > your credit card that was purchased at an unfamiliar > > location. > > > > To date, fast handoff proposals (such as 11r) have > > stretched, but not broken the anti-fraud protections > > provided by AAA protocols: > > > > 1. While the user may move between authenticators, > > migration of the authorization parameters between > > authenticators has enabled correlation of accounting > > records both with each other (e.g. same > > Multi-Session-Id) and with the corresponding > > authentication record (via the Class Attribute). > > > > 2. While the fast handoffs do not generate > > authentication attempts for each new authenticator, > > accounting records can only originate from the > > administrative domain within which the original > > authentication attempt occurred. > > > > For example, within IEEE 802.11r, the user may > > only successfully complete a fast BSS transition > > within the Mobility Domain. As a result, if > > the home accounting server were to receive an > > Accounting-Start from a different Mobility Domain > > that did not correspond to an authentication attempt > > originating from within that Mobility Domain, then the > > Accounting-Start can be flagged as fraudulent. > > > > What has ERX done with EAP boostrapping that is so > > different from existing schemes? > > > > As I see it, the fundamental problem is that EAP > > boostrapping changes the AAA protocol model in a > > fundamental way by allowing an ERX server on the > > path to request a key, without providing proof > > that the user authorized that key request, thereby > > bypassing AAA protocol anti-fraud protections. > > > > As it stands, the ERX-13 document does not specify > > checks that the AAA server should perform before > > issuing the requested DSRK. For example, the > > ERX server need not necessarily be only a single > > hop from the AAA server, and thus may not be > > authenticated to the AAA server, violating > > the requirements of RFC 4962. If the ERX > > server is allowed to exist multiple hops from > > the AAA server, this also implies that the ERX > > server need not necessarily exist within > > the local domain which the user has connected > > to. > > > > The result of this is that a home AAA server > > providing a DSRK to an ERX server via EAP > > boostrapping will not necessarily be able > > to link accounting records received from > > that server to the original EAP authentication, > > or to a subsequent ERX authentication > > terminating at the home server. > > > > What can be done to address the problems? > > The most satisfying solution from a security > > perspective would be to eliminate the piggybacking > > of DSRK provisioning on top of legacy EAP > > exchanges. Providing an explicit request > > from the peer to the server for provisioning > > of the DSRK would provide the server with > > proof of client liveness within the domain > > which subsequently will issue accounting > > records, closing the fraud loophole, as well as > > removing the RFC 4962 "authenicate all > > parties" problem, and any security impact > > on legacy EAP deployments. > > > > Another potential approach would be to > > introduce authorization checks on the > > AAA server. For example, the AAA server > > could require that the ERX server be > > only one hop away, thereby addressing > > the "authenticate the parties" issue. > > Also, the ERX server could now be > > guaranteed to be in the same domain > > as the user, limiting the potential > > for fraud to roughly the same magnitude > > as existing fast handoff proposals > > such as 11r. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > HOKEY mailing list > > HOKEY [at] ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hokey > _________________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options, please visit: > http://lists.frascone.com/mailman/listinfo/eap > > Arhives: http://lists.frascone.com/pipermail/eap >
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ERX fraud issue Bernard_Aboba, March 12 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Lakshminath Dondeti, March 12 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Yoshihiro Ohba, March 14 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Lakshminath Dondeti, March 12 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 13 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard Aboba, March 13 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 13 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard_Aboba, March 13 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard Aboba, March 13 2008
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