| Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
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From: Alan DeKok (aland |
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| Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2008 02:56:10 -0700 (PDT) | |
Bernard_Aboba [at] hotmail.com wrote: > [BA] Ah... so you are saying that the forgery can be detected by looking > for overlap in the time sequence of user activity? This seems like a > fairly intensive check, though. I'm saying that the home AAA server can detect multiple accounting streams for one user, and conclude that fraud is involved. The visited network is therefore required (somewhat logically) to generate only one accounting stream for a user, independent of how many times ERX is used. i.e. if the visited network permits the user to move between AP's, it should be required to bear the burden of ensuring that the accounting stream it generates is sane. Since we assume only one accounting stream from visited AAA to home AAA, the fraud issue is limited. Most networks bill on the basis of time, and one stream can't have multiple start/stop times. Other networks bill on the basis of data usage, and visited networks can already claim inflated numbers. (i.e. it isn't a problem.) > [BA] I was looking for something simpler, such as a mechanism that > would enable checking of a ERX auth exchange with the home server > against subsequent accounting records sent by the local ERX server. > For example, if the peer were to use ERX to tell the home server what > local domain it is in, then the home server could ensure that it only > accepts accounting records from that domain, and no other ones. Since ERX is not for intra-domain handovers, I think it's best to leave this as a requirement on the visited AAA server, as below: > [BA] That would be fine too, as long as the home server knows what > visited network the accounting data is supposed to come from. The accounting stream is tied to the original EAP authentication, which must carry information about the visited domain. This information doesn't have to be generated by the NAS. It can be generated by the visited domain, or by server (proxy/home) that accepts AAA traffic from the visited domain. Alan DeKok.
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue, (continued)
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 13 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard Aboba, March 13 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 13 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard_Aboba, March 13 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 14 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard Aboba, March 14 2008
- Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 14 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Bernard Aboba, March 13 2008
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Re: [HOKEY] ERX fraud issue Alan DeKok, March 13 2008
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