Re: PANA and EAP keying framework
From: Yoshihiro Ohba (yohbatari.toshiba.com)
Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 13:28:04 -0800 (PST)
On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:59:33PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> There are numerous places, but you can start with clause 5.9.2.1, which
> gives an expository overview of the process.

This partially answers to my questions, but I think the 802.11i
specification is vague about the behavior you mentioned.

For example, in the following text in clause 5.9.2.1:

"
Upon successful completion of the 4-Way Handshake, the Authenticator
and Supplicant have authenticated each other; and the IEEE 802.1X
Controlled Ports are unblocked to permit general data traffic.
"

- What is the definition of "general data traffic"?

- The above text does not say anything about whether any data frame
other than 802.1X messages is not allowed to pass through uncontrolled
port.

Yoshihiro Ohba

> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Yoshihiro Ohba [mailto:yohba [at] tari.toshiba.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:47 PM
> > To: Walker, Jesse
> > Cc: Yoshihiro Ohba; Bernard Aboba; eap [at] frascone.com
> > Subject: Re: [eap] PANA and EAP keying framework
> > 
> > Jesse,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 12:30:58PM -0800, Walker, Jesse wrote:
> > > Yoshihiro
> > >
> > > > I don't think 802.11i prohibits any IP traffic to pass throuth
> > > > uncontrolled port before 4-way handshake.  In fact, there is a
> > > > description in section 5.4.2.2 of IEEE 802.11i 2004 specification:
> > > [Walker, Jesse] This is not true. 802.1X frames are the only type of
> > > data 802.11i allows to pass over the link prior to key confirmation.
> IP
> > > traffic is not encapsulated with the 802.1X Ethertype, so is
> expressly
> > > blocked.
> > 
> > Can you point out which text in the 802.11i specification states this
> > specific behavior?  How can we interpret the quoted text in section
> > 5.4.2.2?
> > 
> > In any case, another way is to use multiple (virtual) APs, one
> > operating in 'open' authentication running PANA and the other
> > operating in 802.11i, and switching from the former AP to the latter
> > after PANA authentication.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Yoshihiro Ohba
> 
> 

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