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From: Alper Yegin (alper.yegin |
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| Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:42:31 -0500 (EST) | |
Hi Russ, > >For instance it is not clear from the draft and its > > "prevention of Domino effect/ keying material confidentiality" > >requirements whether > > context transfer of keying material from one authenticator to the next > >for support of fast mobility ruled out? > > My going position is that this should not be allowed. It would mean > that the compromise of one authenticator has serious ramifications on > other authenticators. I am willing to listen to arguments to the > contrary, but it will take a compelling argument to change my mind. In PANA WG, we have a mobility optimization that relies on an anchor NAS providing a session key to another NAS. Please see: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-pana-mobopts-01.txt Let me summarize it here using general terms: NAS1 has already executed EAP with the client, and holds AAA-Key1. When the client moves to NAS2, instead of running EAP again and generating a new AAA-Key, this solution relies on NAS1 generating an AAA-Key-int(erim) as follows: AAA-Key-int = PRF(AAA-Key, NAS2-ID | Client-Session-ID) NAS1 passes the AAA-Key-int to NAS2. NAS2 generates a new AAA-Key-new as: AAA-Key-new = PRF(AAA-Key-int, NAS2_nonce | client_nonce) AAA-Key-new is used by the client and NAS2 until a new round of EAP authentication is executed. As we wrote in the security considerations section, compromise of NAS1 along with interception of nonces on the new link lead to compromise of NAS2. But, compromise of NAS2 does not lead to compromise of NAS1. We also suggested that for deployments that want to reduce the potential threat should subsequently force the client to perform a new EAP authentication with the NAS2. We'd like to hear your thoughts on this. Given that this is an optional feature with a documented risk/warning and a suggested remedy, do you still see issues with this? Regards, Alper
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[eap]: questions on AAA key management draft Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1, October 27 2005
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Re: questions on AAA key management draft Russ Housley, November 6 2005
- RE: Re: questions on AAA key management draft Alper Yegin, November 8 2005
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Re: questions on AAA key management draft Russ Housley, November 6 2005
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- Re: [eap]: questions on AAA key management draft Bernard Aboba, October 27 2005
- RE: [eap]: questions on AAA key management draft Nakhjiri Madjid-MNAKHJI1, October 28 2005
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