| Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
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From: Bernard Aboba (aboba |
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| Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 17:48:40 -0400 (EDT) | |
> 1. Regarding channel binding: "pure" 802.16e authentication is done > entirely inside the MAC layer (fundamentally different from 802.1x) and > all credentials belong to a single Interface/BSId. EAP is media independent. The EAP peer and server identities are not bound to a particular port or MAC address, and so neither are the exported keys. Channel binding, if it is to be accomplished, needs to be done explicitly within the EAP method, AAA protocol and/or Secure Association Protocol. > 2. Consequently, for pure 802.16e the Authenticator as well is always > identified with a particular BSId/Interface. As described in the EAP key management framework, an EAP authenticator's identity is not bound to a particular interface by the EAP conversation. An EAP authenticator can have multiple ports, and where key caching is supported, an EAP peer cannot necessarily assume that the key scope is restricted to the particular port on which it connects to the authenticator. For example, when a WLAN switch is deployed, the key cache may exist on the switch, not on each individual BSSID. As a result, if 802.16e supports key caching, and if an authenticator may have more than one port, then the authenticator identity needs to be made available to the EAP peer, not just the BSId, so that the peer can determine the key scope. I'd also note that an EAP peer can have multiple ports too, so that it cannot be assumed that the EAP exchange implicitly binds the exported keys to the interface over which EAP occurred. > Consequently a > channel-binding EAP method could use the BSId to enable both the AAA > Server and peer to affirm the endpoints for the authentication and key > scope. (EAP-TTLS has optional support for channel binding BTW). If an 802.16e authenticator can have multiple ports, then the BSId is not equivalent to the authenticator identity. That would imply that the key scope is undefined on the EAP peer, and that Channel bindings can only verify the Called-Station-Id, not the NAS-Identifier. > So basic 16e can support channel binding methods easily. If an authenticator can have multiple ports, it would not appear to me that Channel Binding is correctly supported. > 3. The "Split Authenticator" proposal does seem to introduce issues > however .... because in that case the authentication is being done > simultaneously - in effect - for all BSes using the same centralized > "back-half" Authenticator. Yes. This raises the same issues as were caused by the introduction of WLAN switches in 802.11. > I think that's what Sanjay was suggesting > before (as the BSes aren't really ports on the "back-half" authenticator > but are Access Controllers with distinct identity and credentials). Overall, it seems like 802.16e is grappling with some of the issues that IEEE 802.11i failed to resolve successfully. That is part of the reason why the EAP Key Management framework gives fairly detailed advice on the effects of key caching.
- RE: Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes, (continued)
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RE: Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Bakshi, Sanjay, April 7 2005
- RE: Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Bernard Aboba, April 10 2005
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Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Jeff Mandin, April 8 2005
- RE: Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Alper Yegin, April 8 2005
- Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Bernard Aboba, April 8 2005
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RE: Re: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Bakshi, Sanjay, April 7 2005
- RE: IEEE 802.16e EAP usage modes Bernard Aboba, April 10 2005
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