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From: Jari Arkko (jari.arkko |
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| Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 04:45:45 -0400 (EDT) | |
Nick,
--Jari
Nick Petroni wrote:
I agree with your assessment. I think we can reject #252.
--Jari
Nick Petroni wrote:
Suresh,
IMHO this is not a problem with the state machine. The situation you have described, whereby only two values are used for the identifier, is completely allowable in EAP. Section 4.1 of RFC 3748 states the following:
Identifier
The Identifier field is one octet. The Identifier field MUST be the same if a Request packet is retransmitted due to a timeout while waiting for a Response. Any new (non-retransmission) Requests MUST modify the Identifier field.
The Identifier field of the Response MUST match that of the currently outstanding Request. An authenticator receiving a Response whose Identifier value does not match that of the currently outstanding Request MUST silently discard the Response.
In order to avoid confusion between new Requests and retransmissions, the Identifier value chosen for each new Request need only be different from the previous Request, but need not be unique within the conversation. One way to achieve this is to start the Identifier at an initial value and increment it for each new Request. Initializing the first Identifier with a random number rather than starting from zero is recommended, since it makes sequence attacks somewhat more difficult.
Since the Identifier space is unique to each session, authenticators are not restricted to only 256 simultaneous authentication conversations. Similarly, with re-authentication, an EAP conversation might continue over a long period of time, and is not limited to only 256 roundtrips.
As you can see, each message simply needs a different Identifier from the previous message, so alternation is quite ok. Furthermore, the situation you have described is the running of multiple instances of the EAP state machine for the purposes of 802.1X reauthentication. Technically these values repeat, but only among different "runs" of EAP. The range of 0-255 the POSSIBLE values of the identifier field, you are explicitly not guaranteed to use all values or prevent collision among runs.
Unless I am missing something in your question I would like to propose we reject the comment as an Issue with the SM.
Best, nick
Nick L. Petroni, Jr. Graduate Student, Computer Science Maryland Information Systems Security Lab University of Maryland http://www.cs.umd.edu/~npetroni
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Suresh Babu wrote:
Hi friends,
I had the follwing doubt.
When starting(initializing) the state machine,the currentid is initialized to NONE. After successful reauthentication in MD5 case it goes to 1, and sends a success packet with id=1, When the reAuthWhen timer expires in 802.1x layer, it reaches RESTART state and sets eapRestart to TRUE, So to move to CONNCTING state we had make eapRestart as FALSE, This is set by eap-statemachine. so again currentId becomes NONE. So under what conditions currentid can have 0-255 values, here i`m able get only 0-1. How to get around of this problem? Thanx in Advance, Suresh Babu
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Query regarding currentId in eap-statemachine-03 Suresh Babu, June 24 2004
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Re: [Issue 252] Query regarding currentId in eap-statemachine-03 Nick Petroni, July 8 2004
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Re: [Issue 252] Query regarding currentId in eap-statemachine-03 Nick Petroni, July 8 2004
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