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From: Clint Chaplin (clint.chaplin |
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| Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:36:57 -0700 (PDT) | |
On 8/7/08, Pasi.Eronen [at] nokia.com <Pasi.Eronen [at] nokia.com> wrote: > Pat Calhoun wrote: > > > > I was under the impression that 802 (or at least 802.11) required > > > (or assumed) strict in-order delivery -- but perhaps I remember > > > this wrong? (Obvious, tunneling over arbitrary IP hops doesn't > > > guarantee in-order delivery, and it seems the data channel doesn't > > > have mechanisms to reorder or drop out-of-order packets.) > > > The MAC layer will provide guaranteed delivery at the AP, but > > remember that the air isn't exactly a reliable medium. The AP is > > then responsible for tunneling the packets. For open or when crypto > > is provided at the WTP, there are no issues with re-ordering. When > > crypto is provided at the AC, both TKIP and AES have no ordering > > requirements, so that is also not an issue. > > > IEEE 802.11 spec talks about the possibility that the higher layer > protocol (run on top of 802?) would require in-order delivery (IP > doesn't, of course), and seems to be able to provide strict in-order > delivery. > > It might be at least good to discuss this topic in the spec > (describing that CAPWAP might not be able to provide fully faithful > 802.11 implementation in Split MAC mode, but that this doesn't matter > for most practical purposes when you're running TCP/IP). > > Just because you are running TCP/IP as your main protocol doesn't guarantee that it's the only protocol. DNS, DHCP, UDP/IP and others may be necessary to support running TCP/IP. Now, do all those other support protocols not care about out-of-order delivery? I don't know the answer to that question. -- Clint (JOATMON) Chaplin Principal Engineer Corporate Standardization (US) SISA
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Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pasi.Eronen, July 29 2008
- Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pat Calhoun (pacalhou), July 30 2008
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Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pat Calhoun (pacalhou), July 30 2008
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Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pasi.Eronen, August 7 2008
- Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Clint Chaplin, August 7 2008
- Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pat Calhoun (pacalhou), August 13 2008
- Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pasi.Eronen, August 18 2008
- Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pat Calhoun (pacalhou), August 19 2008
- Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pasi.Eronen, August 19 2008
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Re: Last call comments for capwap-protocol-binding-ieee80211-07 Pasi.Eronen, August 7 2008
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